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[squeak-dev] [ANN] Alan Kay to talk about "Next steps for qualitatively improving programming" at HPI in Potsdam
Robert Hirschfeld
2012-01-28 12:44:09 UTC
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It is my great pleasure to announce Alan Kay's talk here at HPI.

Title: "Next steps for qualitatively improving programming"

Venue: Lecture Hall 1, Hasso-Plattner-Institut Potsdam, Germany

Date and time: July 21 (Thu) 2011, 16:00-17:00

Additional information:
http://www.vpri.org/html/people/founders.htm
http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hpi/anfahrt?L=1
http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/news/beitrag/computerpionier-alan-kay-wird-hpi-fellow.html

(Alan's talk will be recorded and made available online.)

Best,
Robert

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www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/swa
Ron Teitelbaum
2012-01-28 12:44:09 UTC
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Very cool!

Ron
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It is my great pleasure to announce Alan Kay's talk here at HPI.
Title: "Next steps for qualitatively improving programming"
Venue: Lecture Hall 1, Hasso-Plattner-Institut Potsdam, Germany
Date and time: July 21 (Thu) 2011, 16:00-17:00
http://www.vpri.org/html/people/founders.htm
http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hpi/anfahrt?L=1
http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/news/beitrag/computerpionier-alan-kay-
wird-hpi-fellow.html
(Alan's talk will be recorded and made available online.)
Best,
Robert
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Robert Hirschfeld
2012-01-28 12:44:18 UTC
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A recording of Alan's talk is available online at

http://www.tele-task.de/de/archive/lecture/overview/5819/

Best,
Robert
Post by Robert Hirschfeld
It is my great pleasure to announce Alan Kay's talk here at HPI.
Title: "Next steps for qualitatively improving programming"
Venue: Lecture Hall 1, Hasso-Plattner-Institut Potsdam, Germany
Date and time: July 21 (Thu) 2011, 16:00-17:00
http://www.vpri.org/html/people/founders.htm
http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hpi/anfahrt?L=1
http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/news/beitrag/computerpionier-alan-kay-wird-hpi-fellow.html
(Alan's talk will be recorded and made available online.)
Best,
Robert
--
Robert Hirschfeld
Hasso-Plattner-Institut
www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/swa
Eliot Miranda
2012-01-28 12:44:18 UTC
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Hi Robert,

is it possible to put the media up on other than Real format? The Real
players, both hd and normal quality, both crash for me on mac OS X 10.6.

On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Robert Hirschfeld <
Post by Robert Hirschfeld
A recording of Alan's talk is available online at
http://www.tele-task.de/de/archive/lecture/overview/5819/
Best,
Robert
Post by Robert Hirschfeld
It is my great pleasure to announce Alan Kay's talk here at HPI.
Title: "Next steps for qualitatively improving programming"
Venue: Lecture Hall 1, Hasso-Plattner-Institut Potsdam, Germany
Date and time: July 21 (Thu) 2011, 16:00-17:00
http://www.vpri.org/html/people/founders.htm
http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hpi/anfahrt?L=1
http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/news/beitrag/computerpionier-alan-kay-wird-hpi-fellow.html
Post by Robert Hirschfeld
(Alan's talk will be recorded and made available online.)
Best,
Robert
--
Robert Hirschfeld
Hasso-Plattner-Institut
www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/swa
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best,
Eliot
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Eliot Miranda
2012-01-28 12:44:18 UTC
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never mind. had to install the latest version and reinstall...
Post by Eliot Miranda
Hi Robert,
is it possible to put the media up on other than Real format? The Real
players, both hd and normal quality, both crash for me on mac OS X 10.6.
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Robert Hirschfeld <
Post by Robert Hirschfeld
A recording of Alan's talk is available online at
http://www.tele-task.de/de/archive/lecture/overview/5819/
Best,
Robert
Post by Robert Hirschfeld
It is my great pleasure to announce Alan Kay's talk here at HPI.
Title: "Next steps for qualitatively improving programming"
Venue: Lecture Hall 1, Hasso-Plattner-Institut Potsdam, Germany
Date and time: July 21 (Thu) 2011, 16:00-17:00
http://www.vpri.org/html/people/founders.htm
http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hpi/anfahrt?L=1
http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/news/beitrag/computerpionier-alan-kay-wird-hpi-fellow.html
Post by Robert Hirschfeld
(Alan's talk will be recorded and made available online.)
Best,
Robert
--
Robert Hirschfeld
Hasso-Plattner-Institut
www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/swa
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best,
Eliot
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best,
Eliot
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Gary Dunn
2012-01-28 12:44:18 UTC
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Soooo ... we can't listen to this with Squeak? That's a shame.
Post by Eliot Miranda
never mind. had to install the latest version and reinstall...
Post by Eliot Miranda
Hi Robert,
is it possible to put the media up on other than Real format? The
Real players, both hd and normal quality, both crash for me on mac OS X
10.6.
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Robert Hirschfeld <
Post by Robert Hirschfeld
A recording of Alan's talk is available online at
http://www.tele-task.de/de/archive/lecture/overview/5819/
Best,
Robert
Post by Robert Hirschfeld
It is my great pleasure to announce Alan Kay's talk here at HPI.
Title: "Next steps for qualitatively improving programming"
Venue: Lecture Hall 1, Hasso-Plattner-Institut Potsdam, Germany
Date and time: July 21 (Thu) 2011, 16:00-17:00
http://www.vpri.org/html/people/founders.htm
http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hpi/anfahrt?L=1
http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/news/beitrag/computerpionier-alan-kay-wird-hpi-fellow.html
Post by Robert Hirschfeld
(Alan's talk will be recorded and made available online.)
Best,
Robert
--
Robert Hirschfeld
Hasso-Plattner-Institut
www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/swa
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best,
Eliot
--
best,
Eliot
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Casey Ransberger
2012-01-28 12:44:18 UTC
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Crying shame. We should fix that:)
Post by Gary Dunn
Soooo ... we can't listen to this with Squeak? That's a shame.
never mind. had to install the latest version and reinstall...
Hi Robert,
is it possible to put the media up on other than Real format? The Real players, both hd and normal quality, both crash for me on mac OS X 10.6.
A recording of Alan's talk is available online at
http://www.tele-task.de/de/archive/lecture/overview/5819/
Best,
Robert
Post by Robert Hirschfeld
It is my great pleasure to announce Alan Kay's talk here at HPI.
Title: "Next steps for qualitatively improving programming"
Venue: Lecture Hall 1, Hasso-Plattner-Institut Potsdam, Germany
Date and time: July 21 (Thu) 2011, 16:00-17:00
http://www.vpri.org/html/people/founders.htm
http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hpi/anfahrt?L=1
http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/news/beitrag/computerpionier-alan-kay-wird-hpi-fellow.html
(Alan's talk will be recorded and made available online.)
Best,
Robert
--
Robert Hirschfeld
Hasso-Plattner-Institut
www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/swa
--
best,
Eliot
--
best,
Eliot
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Casey Ransberger
2012-01-28 12:44:18 UTC
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I did this dance too... Hmm... Seems the Mac installer comes with some kind of translation tool that's advertised to be able to output MPEG, maybe we can use that to save others the trouble of installing the Real client.

If I figure out that I can handle the conversion without spending any money, would folks have interest in the artifact produced?

This is a fun talk, I'm only about halfway through it, but I must admit having cracked up when he said, (and I have to paraphrase, because I don't have it in front of me,) "...if we were physicists, and we didn't understand what Newton did [slight dramatic pause] we should be shot."

LOL!
Post by Eliot Miranda
never mind. had to install the latest version and reinstall...
Hi Robert,
is it possible to put the media up on other than Real format? The Real players, both hd and normal quality, both crash for me on mac OS X 10.6.
A recording of Alan's talk is available online at
http://www.tele-task.de/de/archive/lecture/overview/5819/
Best,
Robert
Post by Robert Hirschfeld
It is my great pleasure to announce Alan Kay's talk here at HPI.
Title: "Next steps for qualitatively improving programming"
Venue: Lecture Hall 1, Hasso-Plattner-Institut Potsdam, Germany
Date and time: July 21 (Thu) 2011, 16:00-17:00
http://www.vpri.org/html/people/founders.htm
http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hpi/anfahrt?L=1
http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/news/beitrag/computerpionier-alan-kay-wird-hpi-fellow.html
(Alan's talk will be recorded and made available online.)
Best,
Robert
--
Robert Hirschfeld
Hasso-Plattner-Institut
www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/swa
--
best,
Eliot
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best,
Eliot
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Juan Vuletich
2012-01-28 12:44:19 UTC
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Post by Casey Ransberger
I did this dance too... Hmm... Seems the Mac installer comes with some
kind of translation tool that's advertised to be able to output MPEG,
maybe we can use that to save others the trouble of installing the
Real client.
If I figure out that I can handle the conversion without spending any
money, would folks have interest in the artifact produced?
This is a fun talk, I'm only about halfway through it, but I must
admit having cracked up when he said, (and I have to paraphrase,
because I don't have it in front of me,) "...if we were physicists,
and we didn't understand what Newton did [slight dramatic pause] we
should be shot."
LOL!
I'd really like to have it in my local disk, and in any format that lets
me pause and resume, or go back to listen to some part again!

Cheers,
Juan Vuletich
Herbert König
2012-01-28 12:44:19 UTC
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Hi Casey, Juan,
Post by Casey Ransberger
If I figure out that I can handle the conversion without spending any
money, would folks have interest in the artifact produced?
JV> I'd really like to have it in my local disk, and in any format that lets
JV> me pause and resume, or go back to listen to some part again!

same for me as a non native speaker I'd really appreciate it!

Cheers,

Herbert
Casey Ransberger
2012-01-28 12:44:20 UTC
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Drat. Tried to convert this, but I just get a dialog that says "convert only
works from a local file." I don't see an option to pull the actual video
file down, and IIRC .ram files are like trackers that point at a stream
rather than being the actual video data? I have a feeling that the reason
I'm unable to do this is by design, but I'm not certain.
Post by Casey Ransberger
I did this dance too... Hmm... Seems the Mac installer comes with some
kind of translation tool that's advertised to be able to output MPEG, maybe
we can use that to save others the trouble of installing the Real client.
If I figure out that I can handle the conversion without spending any
money, would folks have interest in the artifact produced?
This is a fun talk, I'm only about halfway through it, but I must admit
having cracked up when he said, (and I have to paraphrase, because I don't
have it in front of me,) "...if we were physicists, and we didn't understand
what Newton did [slight dramatic pause] we should be shot."
LOL!
I'd really like to have it in my local disk, and in any format that lets me
pause and resume, or go back to listen to some part again!
Cheers,
Juan Vuletich
--
Casey Ransberger
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Juan Vuletich
2012-01-28 12:44:20 UTC
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Post by Casey Ransberger
Drat. Tried to convert this, but I just get a dialog that says
"convert only works from a local file." I don't see an option to pull
the actual video file down, and IIRC .ram files are like trackers that
point at a stream rather than being the actual video data? I have a
feeling that the reason I'm unable to do this is by design, but I'm
not certain.
I believe it is "by design" of the real stream server and client. But if
the server doesn't disable access from the web server, you can get them.
The http urls are:
http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_video.rm

http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_desktop.rm

The smil file is in an attach I just sent to the FONC mail list, you can
get it from there.

Cheers,
Juan Vuletich
Post by Casey Ransberger
I did this dance too... Hmm... Seems the Mac installer comes
with some kind of translation tool that's advertised to be
able to output MPEG, maybe we can use that to save others the
trouble of installing the Real client.
If I figure out that I can handle the conversion without
spending any money, would folks have interest in the artifact
produced?
This is a fun talk, I'm only about halfway through it, but I
must admit having cracked up when he said, (and I have to
paraphrase, because I don't have it in front of me,) "...if we
were physicists, and we didn't understand what Newton did
[slight dramatic pause] we should be shot."
LOL!
I'd really like to have it in my local disk, and in any format
that lets me pause and resume, or go back to listen to some part
again!
Cheers,
Juan Vuletich
--
Casey Ransberger
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Jon Hylands
2012-01-28 12:44:20 UTC
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If you're using windows, and you don't want to install RealPlayer, you can
use VLC on the links below directly...

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

- Jon
Post by Juan Vuletich
Post by Casey Ransberger
Drat. Tried to convert this, but I just get a dialog that says "convert
only works from a local file." I don't see an option to pull the actual
video file down, and IIRC .ram files are like trackers that point at a
stream rather than being the actual video data? I have a feeling that the
reason I'm unable to do this is by design, but I'm not certain.
I believe it is "by design" of the real stream server and client. But if
the server doesn't disable access from the web server, you can get them. The
http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.**de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/**
HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_**video.rm<http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_video.rm>
http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.**de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/**
HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_**desktop.rm<http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_desktop.rm>
The smil file is in an attach I just sent to the FONC mail list, you can
get it from there.
Cheers,
Juan Vuletich
Post by Casey Ransberger
I did this dance too... Hmm... Seems the Mac installer comes
with some kind of translation tool that's advertised to be
able to output MPEG, maybe we can use that to save others the
trouble of installing the Real client.
If I figure out that I can handle the conversion without
spending any money, would folks have interest in the artifact
produced?
This is a fun talk, I'm only about halfway through it, but I
must admit having cracked up when he said, (and I have to
paraphrase, because I don't have it in front of me,) "...if we
were physicists, and we didn't understand what Newton did
[slight dramatic pause] we should be shot."
LOL!
I'd really like to have it in my local disk, and in any format
that lets me pause and resume, or go back to listen to some part
again!
Cheers,
Juan Vuletich
--
Casey Ransberger
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Casimiro de Almeida Barreto
2012-01-28 12:44:20 UTC
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Post by Juan Vuletich
Post by Casey Ransberger
Drat. Tried to convert this, but I just get a dialog that says
"convert only works from a local file." I don't see an option to pull
the actual video file down, and IIRC .ram files are like trackers
that point at a stream rather than being the actual video data? I
have a feeling that the reason I'm unable to do this is by design,
but I'm not certain.
I believe it is "by design" of the real stream server and client. But
if the server doesn't disable access from the web server, you can get
http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_video.rm
http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_desktop.rm
The smil file is in an attach I just sent to the FONC mail list, you
can get it from there.
Ok, I downloaded the files .rm to my box (Fedora 15 i686) & converted to
mpeg (ntsc-dvd format) with:

ffmpeg -i $FILE -target ntsc-dvd $OUTPUT_FILE

So, I have both files in mpeg format. If someone have a suitable place,
I can upload files so other people can use them. I'm not sure about
copyrights and stuff like that...

Best regards,

Casimiro
Post by Juan Vuletich
Cheers,
Juan Vuletich
Post by Casey Ransberger
I did this dance too... Hmm... Seems the Mac installer comes
with some kind of translation tool that's advertised to be
able to output MPEG, maybe we can use that to save others the
trouble of installing the Real client.
If I figure out that I can handle the conversion without
spending any money, would folks have interest in the artifact
produced?
This is a fun talk, I'm only about halfway through it, but I
must admit having cracked up when he said, (and I have to
paraphrase, because I don't have it in front of me,) "...if we
were physicists, and we didn't understand what Newton did
[slight dramatic pause] we should be shot."
LOL!
I'd really like to have it in my local disk, and in any format
that lets me pause and resume, or go back to listen to some part
again!
Cheers,
Juan Vuletich
--
Casey Ransberger
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Brad Fuller
2012-01-28 12:44:20 UTC
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On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 07:27, Casimiro de Almeida Barreto
Post by Casimiro de Almeida Barreto
Post by Juan Vuletich
Post by Casey Ransberger
Drat. Tried to convert this, but I just get a dialog that says
"convert only works from a local file." I don't see an option to pull
the actual video file down, and IIRC .ram files are like trackers
that point at a stream rather than being the actual video data? I
have a feeling that the reason I'm unable to do this is by design,
but I'm not certain.
I believe it is "by design" of the real stream server and client. But
if the server doesn't disable access from the web server, you can get
http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_video.rm
http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_desktop.rm
The smil file is in an attach I just sent to the FONC mail list, you
can get it from there.
Ok, I downloaded the files .rm to my box (Fedora 15 i686) & converted to
ffmpeg -i $FILE -target ntsc-dvd $OUTPUT_FILE
So, I have both files in mpeg format. If someone have a suitable place,
I can upload files so other people can use them. I'm not sure about
copyrights and stuff like that...
I've converted them as well and am going to composite both into one
but I haven't had the time. If someone beats me to it, great! If not,
I'll make it available hopefully soon.
Brad Fuller
2012-01-28 12:44:21 UTC
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Post by Brad Fuller
I've converted them as well and am going to composite both into one
but I haven't had the time. If someone beats me to it, great! If not,
I'll make it available hopefully soon.
I've put them together and I'll make it available today sometime.
Brad Fuller
2012-01-28 12:44:20 UTC
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This worked for me and VLC works with it. Thanks Juan.

Yes, it would be nice to somehow sync the two videos.

brad
You can just download the individual items (lo and behold, RealPlayer
allows you to download the videos if you open them individually), put
them together in a folder with the SMIL file, and edit the SMIL to
point to the local copies. (This was the subject of my email to Juan
Vuletich.)
Leo.
Thanks Leo! For everybody else, the attach is the file Leo sent me.
However I could not download the individual videos from Real Player for Mac.
rtsp://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:554/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_video.rm
rtsp://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:554/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_desktop.rm
http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_video.rm
http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_desktop.rm
Now I have the complete smil as a local files, and Real is happy to pause,
rewind, etc.
It would be valuable to convert the videos to some other format, though.
What I'm not sure if there are better alternatives to Smil, to play both the
video of Alan and the video of the presentation together...
Cheers,
Juan Vuletich
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Hilaire Fernandes
2012-01-28 12:44:20 UTC
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I know administration does understand much about open format, but the
use of Ogg/Theora will just make straightforward the watching of these
videos worldwide, system independently.

Hilaire
Post by Brad Fuller
This worked for me and VLC works with it. Thanks Juan.
Yes, it would be nice to somehow sync the two videos.
brad
You can just download the individual items (lo and behold, RealPlayer
allows you to download the videos if you open them individually), put
them together in a folder with the SMIL file, and edit the SMIL to
point to the local copies. (This was the subject of my email to Juan
Vuletich.)
Leo.
Thanks Leo! For everybody else, the attach is the file Leo sent me.
However I could not download the individual videos from Real Player for Mac.
rtsp://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:554/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_video.rm
rtsp://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:554/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_desktop.rm
http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_video.rm
http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_desktop.rm
Now I have the complete smil as a local files, and Real is happy to pause,
rewind, etc.
It would be valuable to convert the videos to some other format, though.
What I'm not sure if there are better alternatives to Smil, to play both the
video of Alan and the video of the presentation together...
Cheers,
Juan Vuletich
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Hilaire Fernandes
2012-01-28 12:44:21 UTC
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I have to write the latest videos of Alan Kay are very neat, with both
the slides and Alan.

Thanks

Hilaire
Post by Hilaire Fernandes
I know administration does understand much about open format, but the
use of Ogg/Theora will just make straightforward the watching of these
videos worldwide, system independently.
Andres Valloud
2012-01-28 12:44:21 UTC
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Use Avisynth and VirtualDub.
Post by Brad Fuller
This worked for me and VLC works with it. Thanks Juan.
Yes, it would be nice to somehow sync the two videos.
brad
You can just download the individual items (lo and behold, RealPlayer
allows you to download the videos if you open them individually), put
them together in a folder with the SMIL file, and edit the SMIL to
point to the local copies. (This was the subject of my email to Juan
Vuletich.)
Leo.
Thanks Leo! For everybody else, the attach is the file Leo sent me.
However I could not download the individual videos from Real Player for Mac.
rtsp://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:554/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_video.rm
rtsp://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:554/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_desktop.rm
http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_video.rm
http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_STREAM_desktop.rm
Now I have the complete smil as a local files, and Real is happy to pause,
rewind, etc.
It would be valuable to convert the videos to some other format, though.
What I'm not sure if there are better alternatives to Smil, to play both the
video of Alan and the video of the presentation together...
Cheers,
Juan Vuletich
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Hilaire Fernandes
2012-01-28 12:44:19 UTC
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What can't be read does not exist!

Hilaire
Post by Robert Hirschfeld
A recording of Alan's talk is available online at
http://www.tele-task.de/de/archive/lecture/overview/5819/
Best,
Robert
Post by Robert Hirschfeld
It is my great pleasure to announce Alan Kay's talk here at HPI.
Title: "Next steps for qualitatively improving programming"
Venue: Lecture Hall 1, Hasso-Plattner-Institut Potsdam, Germany
Date and time: July 21 (Thu) 2011, 16:00-17:00
http://www.vpri.org/html/people/founders.htm
http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hpi/anfahrt?L=1
http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/news/beitrag/computerpionier-alan-kay-wird-hpi-fellow.html
(Alan's talk will be recorded and made available online.)
Best,
Robert
--
Robert Hirschfeld
Hasso-Plattner-Institut
www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/swa
--
Education 0.2 -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire
Alexander Lazarević
2012-01-28 12:44:19 UTC
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If you are on Linux this might help:

1. Go to [1] and download the top most RealPlayer 11 RPM package
2. I guess on systems that support the RPM package format you just have
to install that package and find out how to start the RealPlayer. (Skip to
step 6)
3. On Debian/Ubuntu you need to install the "alien" package doing
something like "sudo apt-get install alien"
4. After that you can convert the RPM package into a DEB package with
"alien RealPlayer11GOLD.rpm"
5. Install the resulting DEB package eg. "sudo dpkg -i
realplayer_11.0.2.2315-20101118_i386.deb"
6. Launch RealPlayer (on Ubuntu do "/opt/real/RealPlayer/realplay")
7. Select the menu "File>Open Location"
8. Enter "
http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_hd.ram
"

At least that worked for me! :)

Cheers,
Alex

[1] https://player.helixcommunity.org/2005/downloads
Post by Hilaire Fernandes
What can't be read does not exist!
Hilaire
Post by Robert Hirschfeld
A recording of Alan's talk is available online at
http://www.tele-task.de/de/archive/lecture/overview/5819/
Best,
Robert
Post by Robert Hirschfeld
It is my great pleasure to announce Alan Kay's talk here at HPI.
Title: "Next steps for qualitatively improving programming"
Venue: Lecture Hall 1, Hasso-Plattner-Institut Potsdam, Germany
Date and time: July 21 (Thu) 2011, 16:00-17:00
http://www.vpri.org/html/people/founders.htm
http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hpi/anfahrt?L=1
http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/news/beitrag/computerpionier-alan-kay-wird-hpi-fellow.html
Post by Robert Hirschfeld
Post by Robert Hirschfeld
(Alan's talk will be recorded and made available online.)
Best,
Robert
--
Robert Hirschfeld
Hasso-Plattner-Institut
www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/swa
--
Education 0.2 -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire
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Sure.
I remember, when RMS is recorded, he always requires the use of open
format. Don't knwo if

Hilaire
Post by Alexander Lazarević
1. Go to [1] and download the top most RealPlayer 11 RPM package
2. I guess on systems that support the RPM package format you just
have to install that package and find out how to start the
RealPlayer. (Skip to step 6)
3. On Debian/Ubuntu you need to install the "alien" package doing
something like "sudo apt-get install alien"
4. After that you can convert the RPM package into a DEB package with
"alien RealPlayer11GOLD.rpm"
5. Install the resulting DEB package eg. "sudo dpkg -i
realplayer_11.0.2.2315-20101118_i386.deb"
6. Launch RealPlayer (on Ubuntu do "/opt/real/RealPlayer/realplay")
7. Select the menu "File>Open Location"
8. Enter
"http://stream.hpi.uni-potsdam.de:8080/Archive/HPIK_SS11/HPIK_2011_07_21_01_hd.ram"
At least that worked for me! :)
Cheers,
Alex
[1] https://player.helixcommunity.org/2005/downloads
What can't be read does not exist!
Hilaire
Post by Robert Hirschfeld
A recording of Alan's talk is available online at
http://www.tele-task.de/de/archive/lecture/overview/5819/
Best,
Robert
Post by Robert Hirschfeld
It is my great pleasure to announce Alan Kay's talk here at HPI.
Title: "Next steps for qualitatively improving programming"
Venue: Lecture Hall 1, Hasso-Plattner-Institut Potsdam, Germany
Date and time: July 21 (Thu) 2011, 16:00-17:00
http://www.vpri.org/html/people/founders.htm
http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hpi/anfahrt?L=1
http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/news/beitrag/computerpionier-alan-kay-wird-hpi-fellow.html
Post by Robert Hirschfeld
Post by Robert Hirschfeld
(Alan's talk will be recorded and made available online.)
Best,
Robert
--
Robert Hirschfeld
Hasso-Plattner-Institut
www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/swa <http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/swa>
--
Education 0.2 -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire
--
Education 0.2 -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire
Brad Fuller
2012-01-28 12:44:21 UTC
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On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 14:06, Robert Hirschfeld
Post by Robert Hirschfeld
A recording of Alan's talk is available online at
?http://www.tele-task.de/de/archive/lecture/overview/5819/
I've taken the two files that were supplied in RealMedia format,
composited to one file and made them available in AVC/MP4 on my site.
There are two versions available, 245MB and 500MB.

http://www.bradfuller.com/squeak/

Please Note: I don't know if these are copyrighted, if so, and you'd
like me to remove them, I will do so immediately.

If I had the original files, the quality would have been better, but I
think they will do fine. If you have the originals, and want my edits,
please let me know and I can substitute the files I have easily and
re-render. I can also make them smaller size if you'd like.

brad
Tim Felgentreff
2012-01-28 12:44:19 UTC
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Brad Fuller
2012-01-28 12:44:20 UTC
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It will be uploaded as H.264
That would be good. I even tried Win7, and I can't get the Real Media
files to play.
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